On 14/09/2016 10:13 am, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 9/13/2016 7:22 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sunday, 11 September 2016, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
In the UD model of the world, time as we perceive it, is
emergent. The "execution" of the program is timeless and exists
in Platonia. So the steps of the UD have no duration, they are
logically prior to time and duration. On the other hand, I think
so called "observer moments" must have duration in the emergent
sense and must overlap. But their relation to the UD threads is
more aspirational than proven.
I think it should be possible to pause and restart at any point
a process underpinning consciousness and leave the stream of
consciousness unchanged; otherwise there would be a radical
decoupling of the mental from the physical. At the limit, this means
the process underpinning consciousness can be cut up into infinitesimals.
Infinitesimals, I think not, at least not in Bruno's model. Each
thread of the UD's computation can be cut and restarted, but
underlying an "observer moment" or a "thought" are infinitely many
threads and there is no reference by which you can define cutting them
all at "the same time". So they make the "time" of consciousness
essentially real valued.
That understanding of an "observer moment" appears to undermine the "Yes
Doctor" scenario. The point of YD, it seems to me, is that one can
replace oneself with a computer running some program -- the digital
simulation at the basis of mechanism. Such a simulation, being a single
computation, can be stopped and restarted at will without the observer
being conscious of anything. If consciousness, or "observer moments",
are intrinsically made up of an infinite number of threads, then this is
not possible, and YD fails.
Bruce
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