On 14/09/2016 11:24 am, Stephen Paul King wrote:
"...an "observer moment" or a "thought" are infinitely many threads and there is no reference by which you can define cutting them all at "the same time"."

I agree that there is no natural preference for a basis of the threads, but ISTM that each Intelligence has its very own basis of biases which it "determines" as its optimal preference in a moment by moment adaptation on surfaces of constant time.

I don't think "surfaces of constant time" are defined in the dovetailer.

Bruce

There is some merit in the capacity to "look ahead" over multiple moves, but from what I have studied so far, there are rapidly diminishing returns when one is considering environments that are not fixed - as real world environments tend to be.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 9/13/2016 7:22 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

    On Sunday, 11 September 2016, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        In the UD model of the world, time as we perceive it, is
        emergent.  The "execution" of the program is timeless and
        exists in Platonia. So the steps of the UD have no duration,
        they are logically prior to time and duration.  On the other
        hand, I think so called "observer moments" must have duration
        in the emergent sense and must overlap.  But their relation
        to the UD threads is more aspirational than proven.

    I think it should be possible to pause and restart at any point
    a process underpinning consciousness and leave the stream of
    consciousness unchanged; otherwise there would be a radical
    decoupling of the mental from the physical. At the limit, this
    means the process underpinning consciousness can be cut up into
    infinitesimals.

    Infinitesimals, I think not, at least not in Bruno's model.  Each
    thread of the UD's computation can be cut and restarted, but
    underlying an "observer moment" or a "thought" are infinitely many
    threads and there is no reference by which you can define cutting
    them all at "the same time".  So they make the "time" of
    consciousness essentially real valued.


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