2017-04-27 18:17 GMT+02:00 Brent Meeker <[email protected]>: > > > On 4/27/2017 12:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> If there is a primary physical reality, you have to explain how it drives >> the arithmetical consciousness flux. But how could it do that? If it does >> it in a digitally simulable way, it cannot work (because that is done in >> arithmetic too) >> > > We've just been through (again) finding there is no contradiction between > physics and arithmetic. Your answer seems to be that physics can be an > illusion of digital thought, therefore primary physics is otiose. But > thought can't be a consequence of physics because....well you just don't > see how it could be. > > Thought *can be* a consequence of physics *but not* in a computationalist setting, as in computationalism, though are the result of computations which are not physical object.
I don't see any problem with computationalism being false... but if it is true, then to predict correctly your next state, you should have to take into account the infinity of computations computing your current state to have a measure on your next states... If you restrict computations by "physically instantiated in this universe"... well it's not computationalism... Quentin > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
