Much thanks Brent!

I will read it asap :)

Best,

Bruno


On 10 May 2017, at 01:18, Brent Meeker wrote:



On 5/9/2017 7:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 09 May 2017, at 10:20, Bruce Kellett wrote:

On 9/05/2017 5:44 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 May 2017, at 01:07, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On 8/05/2017 8:48 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 May 2017, at 05:53, Bruce Kellett wrote:

I think the problem here is the use of the word "consistent". You refer to "internally consistent computations" and "consistent and hence intelligible 'personal histories'." But what is the measure of such consistency? You cannot use the idea of 'consistent according to some physical laws', because it is those laws that you are supposedly deriving -- they cannot form part of the derivation. I don't think any notion of logical consistency can fill the bill here. It is logically consistent that my present conscious moment, with its rich record of memories of a physical world, stretching back to childhood, is all an illusion of the momentary point in a computational history: the continuation of this computation back into the past, and forward into the future, could be just white noise! That is not logically inconsistent, or comutationally inconsistent. It is inconsistent only with the physical laws of conservation and persistence. But at this point, you do not have such laws!

In fact, just as Boltzmann realized in the Boltzmann brain problem,

Can you give the reference please?

There are many book which give accounts of Boltmann's work, but an accessible introductory overvies is given by Carroll himself in his book "From Eternity to Here".

Thank you. But I am still looking for the precise place where Boltzmann talk on its brain. Not only I don't find it, but nobody seem able to provide that reference.

It seems that the name was not given by Boltzmann himself, but seems to have originated from consideration of a short 1895 article by Boltzmann: "On certain questions of the theory of gases". (Nature 51:413-15) in which he considered the possibility that our Second Law might have arisen from an extremely unlikely random fluctuation. I got this reference from Penrose's recent book, "Fashion, Faith, and Fantasy in the New Physics of the Universe".

Thank you very much, Bruce.

If anyone has an exemplar of Boltzmann's "On certain questions of the theory of gases", (Nature 51:413-15), I am interested.

Best,

Bruno

Brent

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