On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 , Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You are the one badmouthing Helsinki Clark, because you are talking > > about him as if he were a zombie without his own view of reality. >
My hunch that Helsinki Clark is not a zombie is just as strong as my hunch that Telmo Menezes is not a zombie, but no stronger. > > Helsinki Clark is perfectly capable of making a bet about what will > > happen next from his perspective. I think I'm a better judge of what Helsinki Clark will do than you are, so tell me what the bet is (that has never been clear) and who picks the winners and losers and what criteria they use to do so and I'll tell you if Helsinki Clark will take the bet or not. > > > he knows that we all > > experience reality from our own perspectives, Yes. > > > and that this will lead > > to a moment in whatever thing is this that we call reality where he > > will have first-person (subjective) experiences of winning the bet. > > Or > > losing the bet. Not if the bet was never made and a bet can't be made if nobody knows what the bet is. > > > > Moscow Clark will experience winning the > > bet Then Washington Clark must have lost the bet. What was he lacking? More important what was the bet?. > > > Context-dependency IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF PRONOUNS. Yes, depending on context sometimes pronouns have meaning and sometimes they do not, and in a world with people duplicating machines its far easier to write a sentence in which they do not. > > Even everything-list-Clark knows this, in fact he keeps saying > > that one's subjective experience is the probably important thing in > > the universe, and I agree Then you agree that in thought experiments involving subjectivity it's important to get it right. > And we already > > have duplication machines, we call them uterus. > Don't be ridiculous. John K Clark > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
