On 10/30/2017 9:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 30 Oct 2017, at 07:15, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 10/29/2017 10:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Oct 2017, at 21:04, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 10/27/2017 9:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Then the discovery that THC (cannabis main cannabinoid, the
psycho-tropic one) shrink cerebral rumor of mice was dismissed and
stopped, and remain largely ignored. It is a total inhuman shame!
I looked at that paper. It was statistically bogus.
Nobody has ever found that paper easily. One guy found one of the
author and got a manuscript draft, then later, someone found an old
print of it, but I think it is a hell of difficulty to find the paper.
I guess you talk about something else. That paper was written by
people paid by the US Government to prove that cannabis causes
cancer, but they found the opposite: it cures cancer (at least on
mice for a collection of cerebral tumor). You may look at:
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.html
You should look at the original paper, not breathless second-hand
reports.
http://sci-hub.ac/10.1038/nrc1188
I can't access this. I see also russian text asking I register, I
guess. Could you send me a copy please, perhaps?
Anyway, that precise discovery,
It was anything but "precise".
and its extension on humans cells has been done again 20 years later
by a spanish Team, and belongs to the "mainstream":
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948
It refers to cannabis inhibiting autophagy which may lead to cell
death, but not necessarily.
Some cannabinoids induce autophagy of the cancerous cells (in vitro).
That is not bogus, and has been verified, and followed by many
papers showing that cannabis is indeed an excellent medication for
many diseases---you can look at:
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/08/23/20-medical-studies-that-prove-cannabis-can-cure-cancer/
/Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibited tumour-cell proliferation*in vitro*/
Yes. But then you have the testimony. And the point I refer initially
are the lies. Even if cannabis cannot been used for human cancer, the
hiding of the discovery described above, and the stopping of the
research on something promising,
Where is the evidence that the discovery is hidden (it's published) and
that further research was stopped for some nefarious reason?
even if only promising, is the bad attitude I deplore. We are not here
to debate on cannabis.
I did verify some of those papers (some are bogus indeed, but many
are not).
As I said, the team of Mechoulam, in Jerusalem, have understood the
basic general mechanism, by discovering the anandamide, which is the
name they gave to the agonist of THC, and by unraveling the
endo-cannabinoid system in all enough high animals (which means all,
except for some primitive sea non-vertebrates). Google on
endo-cannabinoid system.
Also, it is a false secret that the reason to forbid cannabis was
brought by a set-up. There has never been any reason to make
cannabis illegal. There are many good videos and books on the
subject. I will not develop this here. I can give references,
including to the thousand of papers which add evidence that cannabis
can cure many disease and cancers. Of course such research are not
permitted in the land of the free, and it is not yet that simple in
Europa too.
There are plenty of pharmacological research labs outside the U.S.
Are you claiming there's a worldwide conspiracy to prevent curing cancer?
Cannabis has been made illegal world-wide, rather rapidly. Only the
Russians took a bit more time. yes, I find plausible there has been a
worldwide multi-corporatist conspiracy to hide the medical and
industrial virtue of Hemp to sell as much Petrol as possible.
I find it hilariously implausible. Corn->ethanol barely breaks even on
the energy-return-on-investment. Hemp would require even more
extraction processing.
Brent
That hypothesis explains a lot of things, notably that despite the
success of the cannabis medical, and the continuing lack of evidences
of problem with hemp, cannabis is still in schedule one. Even under
Obama, the schedule one of cannabis has been renewed, despite many
hope for putting it at least in schedule 2. But no: research is still
forbidden/strongly discouraged. The reefer madness persists. It looks
slightly attenuated, but the lies continue in the health domain and in
the industrial domain (not to mention the much older lies in the
theological domain).
Bruno
Brent
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