The MH spacetime in the case of the Kerr metric does permit an observer in principle to witness an infinite stream of bits or qubits up to the inner horizon r_- that is continuous with I^+ in the exterior spacetime. This means due to spacetime effects one could witness the diagonalization in a Zeno machine context. For instance a switch that is switched one in one second, off the next half second, on in the next quarter second and so forth will presumably have a final state. However, what does prevent this in a fundamental way is that a switch flipped in this chirped frequency will diverge in energy and become a black hole before returning a result. We could of course avoid the black hole with a ball that bounces, but of course one does not get an infinite number of little bounces at the end. Because of this an observer could in principle witness a universal Turing machine emulate all possible Turing machines. Thinking according to TMs is for me a bit simpler, but this does illustrate one could get around Godel. However, quantum mechanics as I illustrate seems to throw a spanner in the works. This breaks the continuity between r_- and I_+. It also means the inner horizon is built from quantum fields from the exterior in ways that generates a mass inflation singularity. This is interesting to ponder with respect to the connection between quantum mechanics and general relativity. In fact I think the two are simply aspects of the same thing. This means in some way the incompleteness theorems of Godel are involved with the foundations of physics. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.