On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
wrote:


> >> You walk into a bakery and see a cake and you assume the baker made
>> the cake. Do you also assume the baker made the flower in the cake, and
>>  the carbon in the flower, and the protons in the carbon, and the quarks in
>> the protons?
>
>

> *No, because the cake is an improbable thing, while protons are  probable
> things. I don't know how probable consciousness is. *


But I do know that the bakers brain is far more improbable  than a cake
​,​
and mass and an electromagnetic field and temperature are even more
probable than protons, so why do you demand Evolution produce mass and
temperature and electromagnetic fields but
​you ​
don't demand the baker produce protons?

*> I don't know how probable consciousness is. *


But I can make a educated guess because I know that most things don't
behave intelagently and I also know that when I become less conscious I
also become less intelligent.

*> Humans are terribly complex *


Yes, and evolution didn't bother to put in all that complexity because its
a nice guy and figured we'd like consciousness, it did it because
intelligent behavior has survival value.

*> and it might be that consciousness arises  from terribly complex things,
> or from certain types of terribly  complex things. But I don't really know
> and neither do you.*


I don't really know that human cadavers are not conscious, but they
​sure​
​
don't behave intelligently so my hunch is they are not.
​W​
hat is your hunch?

John K
​Clark​

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