On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected] > wrote:
> >> Evolution produced me. I know with 100% certainty that I am >> conscious. I very strongly suspect billions of other things are conscious >> too. I know for a fact Evolution can detect intelligent behavior but it >> can’t detect consciousness and yet I am consciousness. Therefor >> consciousness MUST be a byproduct intelligence. Evolution says as much >> about consciousness as there is to say, it is the best purely logical >> argument against solipsism, in fact it is the only one, all the others are >> just variations of “my initiation says its untrue” or “solipsism is too >> strange to be true”. > > *> This assumes that if evolution produced X, then any property of X is > also a product of evolution.* Not any property of X, just any property the parts of X didn't have before Evolution started its work. You walk into a bakery and see a cake and you assume the baker made the cake. Do you also assume the baker made the flower in the cake, and the carbon in the flower, and the protons in the carbon, and the quarks in the protons? > > > > * It is trivially not the case. For example, you have mass and an > electromagnetic field and a temperature, and yet neither mass nor > electromagnetism nor temperature are products of evolution.* I know Evolution produced my physical brain and I know with 100% certainty my brain is conscious, however I do not know with 100% certainty that mass or electromagnetism or temperature are conscious, in fact I rather suspect they are not and there is only one reason I have that suspicion, they do not behave intelligently. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

