On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
*>> NO!* That is exactly what it doesn't show! Consciousness has no >> evolutionary purpose, it couldn't have because Evolution can't even detect >> consciousness, its no better at it than we are at detecting consciousness >> in others. So consciousness must be a byproduct of something that Evolution >> *can* detect, like intelligence. > > > >* * > *But a necessary byproduct of hominid evolved intelligence; * > *NO! *Byproduct don't evolve anything, especially not consciousness because Evolution can't even see it. > *> * > *otherwise it could be dispensed with. * > You can't dispose of a spandrel, it comes with the territory. >* * > *Fine. But if the roof isn't supported by arches the spandrels don't > appear. If intelligence evolves via some other path * > *(as in octopuses) or is designed rather than evolved the argument that it > will be accompanied by consciousness fails.* If there are many paths to intelligence it is probable that Evolution found the simplest, if only one of those paths leads to consciousness, our path, then it would be easier to make a intelligent computer that is conscious than to make a intelligent computer that has no consciousness. As I've said , you've got to make a educated guess and place a bet. And the stakes are very high. John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

