On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:57 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected] > wrote:
> *> You cannot assume that you can infer consciousness from behavior, and > that use this assumption toconclude that you can infer consciousness from > behavior.* Sure you can. If I accept the premiss “consciousness can be inferred from intelligent behavior” and I see you behaving intelligently then it is 100% logical for me to conclude that you are conscious. You can say the premiss is untrue if you want but be aware that path leads to solipsism. But maybe solecism is true, I can’t disprove it, so maybe I really am the only conscious being in the universe, but it sure doesn’t feel that way to me. > * > I am just stating the simple fact that, since there is no known > instrument so far that can detect consciousness in the 3p, then it is not > possible to propose scientific theories about consciousness at the moment. * I agree with that except I’d get rid of the caveat “at the moment”. I don’t think I could ever be as certain of your consciousness as I am of my own. > > I strongly suspect that consciousness is something that cannot, in fact, > be studied by science -- because consciousness is what does science. It's > like asking you to look inside your eyeballs. Or maybe its a brute fact so we can’t find out more about consciousness because after discovering consciousness is the way data feels like when it is being processed there is nothing more to discover about consciousness (not to be confused with intelligence, there is always more to discover about that). It seems likely to me that a iterated series of “why” questions does not continue for infinity but eventually terminates in a brute fact, and I suspect consciousness is one of them. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
