On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 6:34 am, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 3/20/2018 3:58 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> The interesting thing is that you can draw conclusions about consciousness
> without being able to define it or detect it.
>
> I agree.
>
>
> The claim is that IF an entity
> is conscious THEN its consciousness will be preserved if brain function is
> preserved despite changing the brain substrate.
>
> Ok, this is computationalism. I also bet on computationalism, but I
> think we must proceed with caution and not forget that we are just
> assuming this to be true. Your thought experiment is convincing but is
> not a proof. You do expose something that I agree with: that
> non-computationalism sounds silly.
>
> But does it sound so silly if we propose substituting a completely
> different kind of computer, e.g. von Neumann architecture or one that just
> records everything instead of an episodic associative memory, for the
> brain.  The Church-Turing conjecture says it can compute the same
> functions.  But does it instantiate the same consciousness.  My intuition
> is that it would be "conscious" but in some different way; for example by
> having the kind of memory you would have if you could review of a movie of
> any interval in your past.
>

I think it would be conscious in the same way if you replaced neural tissue
with a black box that interacted with the surrounding tissue in the same
way. It doesn’t matter what is in the black box; it could even work by
magic.

> --
Stathis Papaioannou

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