On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>that is one (of many) problems with your “proof”. You start off by >> assuming a physical mechanism can duplicate everything > > *>False. I start from the assumption that I can survive from a digital > emulation of my brain at some level.* > Then why in the world did you say " With mechanism, obviously a soul, or a first person experience can be duplicated from a third person pov. But not from a first person pov"? > >> >> EXCEPT for >> the >> first person pov, > > > *>EXCEPT *from*, not for.* > I don't see why mechanism can't duplicate experience *from* the first person pov, but its "obvious" to you so you should have no difficulty explaining why with clear precise words, and in English not Brunospeak. *>Mechanism cannot duplicate or do something.* I won't say that's the silliest thing you've ever said but its in the top 10. > >>observers will feel things after both the Everett type split and the >> duplicating machine type split, and if the environments they are put into >> are different then what they feel will be different and they will become >> different people from that point on, although both will remember being the >> same person before the split (or walking into the copying machine). > > > *>OK then, but that entails the first person indeterminacy for the > self-duplication.* > There is nothing indeterminate about that, its all 100% predictable. >> >> like most of the wise men you recommend on this list the guy who >> dreamed up Theaetetus would flunk a freshman algebra test > > > *>No. He was a great mathematician. He proved the irrationality of all > square root of non perfect square.* > We've known how to solve cubic equations since 1530, but not one of your ancient Greeks could, and in physics astronomy and biology they were even more ignorant than in mathematics. So why would anybody working on modern scientific problems be interested in what they ancient Greeks had to say about anything? <*sigh*> > <grown> John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
