On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 6:13:04 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/12/2018 10:51 AM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 5:28:05 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 6/12/2018 1:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> *The bottom line, or if you will, the 800 pound elephant in the room, is >> that the macro entities which are included in the seminal superposition of >> states for decoherence, are in thermal equilibrium with their environments, >> constantly emitting and absorbing photons -- before, during, and after >> their inclusions in said state. Thus, they never are, nor can they ever be >> isolated from their environments, making this seminal superposition of >> states an illusory construction. AG * >> >> >> Don't you see that you're just repeating the old debate about the >> Heisenberg cut. Where's the line between micro and macro? You think >> simplistically by considering only really big stuff as classical and >> ignoring the fact that there is a whole range of sizes. >> >> Brent >> > > * I have NOT. I have stated several times that some macro objects are > EXCLUDED, such as those with well defined deBroglie wave lengths like > billiard balls and Buckyballs. For the vast set of applicable macro > objects, my claim remains; that there is a fallacy of including these > objects in superpositions, as doing so leads to a foolish conclusion; MW. > AG* > > > You're missing the point that in every QM experiment there's a step where > micro goes to macro. It doesn't solve anything to rant about de Broglie > wavelengths of cats. > > Brent >
*Before the Masters of the Universe included Observers, Instruments, and Environments in the wf's, did quantum experiments imply MW (excluding the MWI based on the SWE)? AG* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
