Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 19:55, <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:58:47 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 09:26, <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 6:31:26 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 00:10, <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:59:49 PM UTC, stathisp wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 2:08 am, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:30:11 AM UTC, [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:24:42 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I still don't get it why some people prefer insulting other people >>>>>>>>> and their ideas instead of discussing or just stay with their own >>>>>>>>> thoughts >>>>>>>>> and just say they disagree... What do you gain by saying they are >>>>>>>>> insane, >>>>>>>>> stupid or whatever? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It just looks to me childish. So stop doing this, stop writing in >>>>>>>>> 70pt size red fonts... It's a disfavor to your arguments. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quentin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In fact, I DO think it's a mental illness. AG >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's not just wrong, but a gross dysfunction of judgment. Joe the >>>>>>> Plumber goes into a lab or his closet, shoots a single electron at a >>>>>>> slit, >>>>>>> and by so doing creates uncountable universes, all with copies of >>>>>>> himself, >>>>>>> replete with his memories. Sure. AG >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You may as well protest on the same basis that the universe can’t be >>>>>> so wastefully large. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't see how that follows. Unfortunately, one cannot PROVE that the >>>>> many worlds allegedly implied by the MWI interpretation don't exist, which >>>>> is why I insist the True Believers are judgment impaired. Do you really >>>>> believe that trivial actions by mere humans, accidents of evolution, can >>>>> create entire universes? AG. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No, because that's not what happens, at every interactions, universes >>>> split/differentiate... Humans or not. >>>> >>>> >>>> Humans have nothing to do in the process. >>>> >>> >>> Like I said, the True Believers are judgement impaired. The splitting >>> occurs BECAUSE Joe the Plumber DECIDES to perform a single event slit >>> experiment. AG >>> >> >> >> Your judgment is impaired because that 's not what happens, splitting >> happens continuously, Joe the plumber is part of the universe so as his >> thoughts and whatever he does... His decisions are not something that >> exists independently outside of that, Joe the plumber does not create >> universe, any qm interactions split the universe, since the beginning of >> the universe, no humans needed at all. >> > > *I misspoke. I just meant that by doing a single event slit experiment, it > is alleged by the MWI that the universe splits uncountably. I didn't mean > that the alleged physical splitting is caused by human consciousness, in > this case the decision to do the experiment. It's like a man deciding to > jump off a roof and gets killed; his death is directly caused by gravity, > not that the man caused the gravity to exist. The alleged splitting is not > disprovable, just plausible for those whose judgement is impaired due to an > over reliance on mathematics. As I pointed out several times, without any > reasoned responses, in E&M we have plane wave solutions to Maxwell's > Equations, but plane waves do not exist in nature. IOW, mathematics > modeling physical reality can sometimes be misleading as in the E&M > example. AG* >
It's you who's using the Joe the plumber argument to make it looks like insane... It's just a straw man. Stop using insult and straw man, it is useless and childish. Quentin > > > -- >>>>>> Stathis Papaioannou >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

