Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 19:55, <agrayson2...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:58:47 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 09:26, <agrays...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 6:31:26 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 00:10, <agrays...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:59:49 PM UTC, stathisp wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 2:08 am, <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:30:11 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:24:42 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I still don't get it why some people prefer insulting other people >>>>>>>>> and their ideas instead of discussing or just stay with their own >>>>>>>>> thoughts >>>>>>>>> and just say they disagree... What do you gain by saying they are >>>>>>>>> insane, >>>>>>>>> stupid or whatever? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It just looks to me childish. So stop doing this, stop writing in >>>>>>>>> 70pt size red fonts... It's a disfavor to your arguments. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quentin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In fact, I DO think it's a mental illness. AG >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's not just wrong, but a gross dysfunction of judgment. Joe the >>>>>>> Plumber goes into a lab or his closet, shoots a single electron at a >>>>>>> slit, >>>>>>> and by so doing creates uncountable universes, all with copies of >>>>>>> himself, >>>>>>> replete with his memories. Sure. AG >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You may as well protest on the same basis that the universe can’t be >>>>>> so wastefully large. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't see how that follows. Unfortunately, one cannot PROVE that the >>>>> many worlds allegedly implied by the MWI interpretation don't exist, which >>>>> is why I insist the True Believers are judgment impaired. Do you really >>>>> believe that trivial actions by mere humans, accidents of evolution, can >>>>> create entire universes? AG. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No, because that's not what happens, at every interactions, universes >>>> split/differentiate... Humans or not. >>>> >>>> >>>> Humans have nothing to do in the process. >>>> >>> >>> Like I said, the True Believers are judgement impaired. The splitting >>> occurs BECAUSE Joe the Plumber DECIDES to perform a single event slit >>> experiment. AG >>> >> >> >> Your judgment is impaired because that 's not what happens, splitting >> happens continuously, Joe the plumber is part of the universe so as his >> thoughts and whatever he does... His decisions are not something that >> exists independently outside of that, Joe the plumber does not create >> universe, any qm interactions split the universe, since the beginning of >> the universe, no humans needed at all. >> > > *I misspoke. I just meant that by doing a single event slit experiment, it > is alleged by the MWI that the universe splits uncountably. I didn't mean > that the alleged physical splitting is caused by human consciousness, in > this case the decision to do the experiment. It's like a man deciding to > jump off a roof and gets killed; his death is directly caused by gravity, > not that the man caused the gravity to exist. The alleged splitting is not > disprovable, just plausible for those whose judgement is impaired due to an > over reliance on mathematics. As I pointed out several times, without any > reasoned responses, in E&M we have plane wave solutions to Maxwell's > Equations, but plane waves do not exist in nature. IOW, mathematics > modeling physical reality can sometimes be misleading as in the E&M > example. AG* >
It's you who's using the Joe the plumber argument to make it looks like insane... It's just a straw man. Stop using insult and straw man, it is useless and childish. Quentin > > > -- >>>>>> Stathis Papaioannou >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
