On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:15:58 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 6:19:47 PM UTC, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 19:55, <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:58:47 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 09:26, <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 6:31:26 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 00:10, <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:59:49 PM UTC, stathisp wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 2:08 am, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:30:11 AM UTC, [email protected] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:24:42 AM UTC, Quentin Anciaux >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I still don't get it why some people prefer insulting other >>>>>>>>>>> people and their ideas instead of discussing or just stay with >>>>>>>>>>> their own >>>>>>>>>>> thoughts and just say they disagree... What do you gain by saying >>>>>>>>>>> they are >>>>>>>>>>> insane, stupid or whatever? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It just looks to me childish. So stop doing this, stop writing >>>>>>>>>>> in 70pt size red fonts... It's a disfavor to your arguments. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quentin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In fact, I DO think it's a mental illness. AG >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's not just wrong, but a gross dysfunction of judgment. Joe the >>>>>>>>> Plumber goes into a lab or his closet, shoots a single electron at a >>>>>>>>> slit, >>>>>>>>> and by so doing creates uncountable universes, all with copies of >>>>>>>>> himself, >>>>>>>>> replete with his memories. Sure. AG >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You may as well protest on the same basis that the universe can’t >>>>>>>> be so wastefully large. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't see how that follows. Unfortunately, one cannot PROVE that >>>>>>> the many worlds allegedly implied by the MWI interpretation don't >>>>>>> exist, >>>>>>> which is why I insist the True Believers are judgment impaired. Do you >>>>>>> really believe that trivial actions by mere humans, accidents of >>>>>>> evolution, >>>>>>> can create entire universes? AG. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No, because that's not what happens, at every interactions, universes >>>>>> split/differentiate... Humans or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Humans have nothing to do in the process. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Like I said, the True Believers are judgement impaired. The splitting >>>>> occurs BECAUSE Joe the Plumber DECIDES to perform a single event slit >>>>> experiment. AG >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Your judgment is impaired because that 's not what happens, splitting >>>> happens continuously, Joe the plumber is part of the universe so as his >>>> thoughts and whatever he does... His decisions are not something that >>>> exists independently outside of that, Joe the plumber does not create >>>> universe, any qm interactions split the universe, since the beginning of >>>> the universe, no humans needed at all. >>>> >>> 5 >>> *I misspoke. I just meant that by doing a single event slit experiment, >>> it is alleged by the MWI that the universe splits uncountably. I didn't >>> mean that the alleged physical splitting is caused by human consciousness, >>> in this case the decision to do the experiment. It's like a man deciding to >>> jump off a roof and gets killed; his death is directly caused by gravity, >>> not that the man caused the gravity to exist. The alleged splitting is not >>> disprovable, just plausible for those whose judgement is impaired due to an >>> over reliance on mathematics. As I pointed out several times, without any >>> reasoned responses, in E&M we have plane wave solutions to Maxwell's >>> Equations, but plane waves do not exist in nature. IOW, mathematics >>> modeling physical reality can sometimes be misleading as in the E&M >>> example. AG* >>> >> >> It's you who's using the Joe the plumber argument to make it looks like >> insane... It's just a straw man. Stop using insult and straw man, it is >> useless and childish. >> > > *He was a republican, just a citizen who had his 15 minutes of fame in a > recent US election. You can change the name, but it comes to the same > result. While you're at it, tell us about the mathematics that leads to > plane wave solutions which don't exist in reality. AG* >
*The fallacy in your reasoning which supports the MWI and which you are loathe to admit, is over-reliance on mathematics, the belief that it always gives solutions that exist in physical reality. The plane wave solutions of ME's is a good example of what I am referring to; mathematical solutions that don't exist in nature. AG * > > >> Quentin >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>>>>>>> Stathis Papaioannou >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
