From: *Jason Resch* <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 7:57 PM John Clark <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 8:11 PM, smitra <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

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        A concept of "influence" without any information transfer is
        ambiguous. The meaning of this "influence" will be dependent
        on the particular interpretation used, it has no operational
        meaning.
        /

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    Communicating is not the same as influencing, communicating means
    transferring Shannon style information and entanglement can't do
    that faster than light. But it will still let you influence things
    faster than light. Quantum entanglement can influence things
    faster than light but you need more than that to transmit
    information, you need a standard to measure that change against,
    and Quantum Mechanics can't provide that standard; all it can do
    is change one apparently random state to another apparently random
    state.

    You and I have quantum entangledcoins, I'm on Earth and you're in
    the Andromeda Galaxy 2 million light years away.  I flip my
    coin 100 times and record my sequences of heads and tails and then
    just one hour later you do the same thing.


It doesn't work like that. You need to generate the coins at one location, then bring them separately (at sub C speeds) from the location they were created to Earth and Andromeda.  It's because of this that FTL is not not needed under QM to explain EPR.

Bell's theorem rules out this "common cause" explanation. Such an explanation would be a local hidden variable account, and that is ruled out. Claiming that Bell's theorem doesn't apply to many-worlds doesn't work either. I think that any "common cause" explanation would have to contend with the Kochen-Specker theorem -- which also rules out any such hidden variables.

Bruce


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