> On 16 Oct 2018, at 20:01, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/16/2018 1:14 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> But here is the thesis I think of the experience-oriented (vs. >> information-oriented) paradigm*: Experience cannot be represented: It does >> not exist outside of its material instantiation. > > But that's just an assertion that, not only am I giving up, but you must give > up too. I'm defining "the hard problem" to be "the impossible problem". > > Most things don't exist outside of their material instantiation,
Most thing, not all? Good, there is hope. Perhaps you are OK that 2+2=4 is true independly of any material manifestation. Then, when you understand that all computations are emulated in arithmetic, you can understand why we can doubt about matter. Computer science re-enacts the dream argument in a very price and solid manner, mainly thanks to Church/Turing or Kleene/Post thesis. > including intelligence. If mechanism is true, that exist already in arithmetic. No need of matter, and actually, adding matter to the picture makes the hard problem having NO solution if we assume Mechanism. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
