> On 29 Oct 2018, at 23:46, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/29/2018 1:06 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:48:57 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 10/28/2018 9:17 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> Instead of relativism, philosophers talk of perspectivism. >>> >>> (Nietzsche is said to be the father of perspectivism. I say, actually, >>> Kant. ...) >>> >>> A Scientist sees a bunch of phenomena (recorded as data) and says, I have >>> written a theory θ in a language λ that models the data!. Other Scientists >>> say, I have done the same, but mine's "better"! So then there are a bunch >>> of θ_λs (perspectives). The odd thing is that each Scientist talks about >>> their pet θ_λ as being the world-as-it-is. >> >> You must be thinking of philosophers. Scientists propose an experiment to >> see which theory is better. >> >> Brent >> >> >> >> I don't see much evidence for that. Look at the 100s of papers on arXiv on >> all the competing models for quantum gravity, dark matter, dark energy, >> modified gravity, cosmic inflation, ... >> >> >> And these papers are written mostly by Ph.D. physicists, not Ph.D. >> philosophers. > > > And some propose empirical tests. Have you seen even one philosopher propose > an empirical test?
Newton, Huygens, etc. Of course that “natural philosophy” is now called “physical science". For metaphysics/theology, you need to wait … for my work :) It is hard to imagine something more easily refutable (in principle): compare the physical reality (inferred by observation) and the physical reality (deduced by mechanism + the math of machine’s introspection). > > Phyicist: I need $200,000 for a new vacuum chamber to test my theory. > Dean: You physicists, always asking for money. Why can't you be like the > mathematicians? All they need are pencil, paper, and erasers. Or like the > philosophers. All they need is pencil and paper. Lol Note that a mathematician, and even a physicist, does not necessarily need an eraser, only a big trash. Well, if mechanism and/or quantum mechanics is right. In fact erasers (absolute erasers) probably do not exist. Bruno > >> >> - pt >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list >> <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
