> On 19 Dec 2018, at 23:33, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:59, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Dynamics is the study of matter in motion. There are no clocks in arithmetic.
> Of course there is clock. The successor function implements it out of time 
> and space. 
> 
> The fact that you can use one ordered sequence to index another ordered 
> sequence does not constitute a clock.

But it is all you need to implement a clock similar to the one used in, say, a 
von Neumann computer.




> 
> Nothing exists out of time and space, not even time and space themselves.


Assuming such absolute space and time exists in some absolute way, and for this 
you need to assume that the brain is not Turing emulable, and you are out of 
working hypothesis.


Bruno



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