On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:46 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 19 Dec 2018, at 23:33, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:59, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dynamics is the study of matter in motion. There are no clocks in
>> arithmetic.
>>
>> Of course there is clock. The successor function implements it out of
>> time and space.
>>
>
> The fact that you can use one ordered sequence to index another ordered
> sequence does not constitute a clock.
>
>
> But it is all you need to implement a clock similar to the one used in,
> say, a von Neumann computer.
>

No, a clock is a physical device, not a sequence of imaginary objects.

>
> Nothing exists out of time and space, not even time and space themselves.
>
> Assuming such absolute space and time exists in some absolute way, and for
> this you need to assume that the brain is not Turing emulable, and you are
> out of working hypothesis.
>

You can have your hypothesis. But I am talking about what works in the
world, not some arbitrary hypothesis.

Bruce

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