On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 1:42:14 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > 1) Oh, I'm clearly not making that mistake. When I talk about emergence, I > talk about ontological emergence, not the hand-waving epistemic kind that > people usually talk about. The emergence that I'm talking about is the > emergence of new qualia on top of previously existing qualia. This is what > my book is about. So it's the real deal. Alternatively, have a look at my > presentation from the Science & Nonduality conference where I talk about > The Emergent Structure of Consciousness, where I talk about ontological > emergence and I specifically mention to the audience that the epistemic > emergence is false: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMAy6ft-ZQ > And what realizes the ontological emergence is self-reference through its > property of looking-back-at-itself, with looking-back becoming more than > itself, like in the cover of the book. > > 2) Consciousness is not mysterious. And this is exactly what my book is > doing: demystifying consciousness. If you decide to read my book, you will > gain at the end of it a clarity of thinking through these issues that all > people should have such that they will stop making the confusions that > robots are alive. > > 3) No, they are not extraordinarily claims. They are quite trivial. And > they start from the trivial realization that the brain does not exist. The > "brain" is just an idea in consciousness. > > >>
The panpsychist says *Matter is all there is, but matter has experientiality.* The proposed alternative is *Experientiality is all there is, while matter is illusion. * As science has proceeded so far as the study of matter, I'm not sure how the alternative (vs. panpsychism) helps in the science of consciousness. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.