On 4/16/2019 11:23 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
1) Well... It might be a very specific arrangement of atoms, but they
are still governed by Newton's Laws. Is not like if you put them in
certain order magic happens and new things start to appear. It has no
memory, no purpose and no ability to act, since memory, purpose and
ability to act are properties of consciousness.
But a Mars Rover with artificial intelligence does have purpose, to
collect and analyze various data. It has the ability to act, to travel,
to take samples, to communicate. It has memory of its purpose, where
it's been, and for an AI system, even the ability to learn. Yes, no
magic happens. But new things start to appear just as certain
arrangements of atoms are your computer that can transform and display
these symbols but in another arrangement would be just a lump of metal
and plastic.
2) Try removing yourself from the house in the middle of the winter.
You will stop experience warmth, but this doesn't mean that the quale
of warmth is generated by the house.
True. But something is different about inside and outside the house
that is not ONLY in your consciousness, because others agree about it
and measure it...it's called temperature.
3) I have done the thinking. I don't have to do the experiment to know
it is true.
That's what all the scholastics thought.
Brent
On Wednesday, 17 April 2019 03:00:14 UTC+3, Brent wrote:
1)
First, that's false. The Rover is a very specific arrangement of
atoms interacting with a specific environment. It has memory,
purpose, and the ability to act.
2)
Try removing the phosphate atoms from your brain and see what you
believe...if anything.
Maybe because you think that the brain is just a bunch of atoms.
No, it is now. If you were to measure what the electrons are
doing in the brain, you would see that they are not moving
according to known physics, but they are being moved by
consciousness.
3)
And have you done this observation? A Nobel prize awaits.
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