> On 17 Apr 2019, at 01:29, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 4/16/2019 6:42 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> In the experientialist (Strawson-Goff-etc. "panpsychist" view): experiential >> qualia (EQ) exist in matter at some level on their own -- and EQ cannot be >> reduced to information (numbers). >> >> So real "selfness" cannot be achieved in any "Gödel-Löb-etc." theorem prover >> running on the so-called conventional computer. >> >> Now some future biological computers -- made via synthetic biology -- open >> new possibilities. > > What makes them "biological"? Do they have to be made of amino acids? > nuclei acids? do they have to be powered by a phosphate cycle? What makes > one bunch of biological molecules conscious and another very similar bunch > dead, or anesthesized? > > The only coherent answer is that consciousness is realized by certain > information processing...independent of the molecules instantiating the > process.
Good point, and this is what will lead, when assuming the process are digital, to associate a mind to all “enough similar” digital process realised, in the precise sense of Church and Turing, in arithmetic. It is the same information which os processed, at the “right” level, which exist by the assumption of digital mechanism. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
