On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:29:24 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/16/2019 6:42 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > In the experientialist (Strawson-Goff-etc. "panpsychist" view): > > experiential qualia (EQ) exist in matter at some level on their own -- > > and EQ cannot be reduced to information (numbers). > > > > So real "selfness" cannot be achieved in any "Gödel-Löb-etc." theorem > > prover running on the so-called conventional computer. > > > > Now some future biological computers -- made via synthetic biology -- > > open new possibilities. > > What makes them "biological"? Do they have to be made of amino acids? > nuclei acids? do they have to be powered by a phosphate cycle? What > makes one bunch of biological molecules conscious and another very > similar bunch dead, or anesthesized? > > The only coherent answer is that consciousness is realized by certain > information processing...independent of the molecules instantiating the > process. > > Brent >
We don't know enough about matter to say. Look at all the quirky stuff coming out of materials science news. And biomatter is quirkier still. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
