On 4/16/2019 5:59 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:29:24 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 4/16/2019 6:42 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > In the experientialist (Strawson-Goff-etc. "panpsychist" view): > experiential qualia (EQ) exist in matter at some level on their own -- > and EQ cannot be reduced to information (numbers). > > So real "selfness" cannot be achieved in any "Gödel-Löb-etc." theorem > prover running on the so-called conventional computer. > > Now some future biological computers -- made via synthetic biology -- > open new possibilities. What makes them "biological"? Do they have to be made of amino acids? nuclei acids? do they have to be powered by a phosphate cycle? What makes one bunch of biological molecules conscious and another very similar bunch dead, or anesthesized? The only coherent answer is that consciousness is realized by certain information processing...independent of the molecules instantiating the process. BrentWe don't know enough about matter to say. Look at all the quirky stuff coming out of materials science news. And biomatter is quirkier still.
We know enough about matter that adding a little alcohol to your bloodstream or a small blow to the head (but not the foot) will make you qualia go away.
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