Reality is what we can reach intersubjective agreement on. There is a
consistency from person to person in perceptions, so that becomes the
basis for hypothesizing there is person and mind independent reality, a
common world. Conscious thought, like percpetions, are
epistemologically fundamental. Whether they are ontologically
fundamental depends on what theory proves always accurate in prediction
and broad in scope. Hypothesizing other consciousnesses is not
different in principle from hyposthesizing tables and quarks.
Brent
On 4/22/2019 12:38 PM, Terren Suydam wrote:
Of course we have a choice. The primacy of consciousness may entail
nothing more than an epistemological barrier - we may never be able to
experience reality directly, or know its true form, but that doesn't
force us to deny the possibility of an objective reality.
If nothing else it forces us to remain agnostic. We can be sure of the
primacy of consciousness - on this we agree - but we cannot be sure
about anything of the reality that pushes back on our consciousness.
Your certainty on this matter is a red flag for me.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:21 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
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We have no choice in building such an ontology given the fact that
we can never know anything outside consciousness. Sure, if we want
just technology, then all kinds of science can do it. But if we
want truth, we cannot search it outside consciousness.
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