On 5/5/2019 2:06 PM, [email protected] wrote:

I of course think that "consciousness arises from the function of matter in some configurations" (the conscious brain is nothing but the cells and chemicals operating inside the skull), but it's doing more than/information processing/. It's doing *experience processing*. People can deliberate until the cows come home why information processing is sufficient or is not sufficient. If one is already an "information processing is sufficient for consciousness" fan, then nothing will probably change their belief in that.

The brain is an experience processing engine. Experience cannot be reduced to information.

The question is whether it can be reduced to a physical process and if so what processes produce experience?  Does information processing that produces intelligence also produce experience?  If not, there can be philosophical zombies.

Brent


That's the essence of panpsychism.


@philipthrift




On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 3:31:06 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:

    But your "protopsychical parts" seem to be nothing more than the
    potential to function in something conscious; which is the same as
    the physicalist theory that consciousness arises from the function
    of matter in some configurations. Except physicalism is more
    explicit; it distinguishes information processing, evidenced by
    intelligent behavior, as instantiating consciousness.

    Brent

    On 5/5/2019 1:08 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:


    On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:


        my cells, and "my" bacteria, are conscious at the level of
        biochemical information processing.  But that's not part of
        my inner narrative consciousness.

        Brent



    As I wrote previously:

    cells have some level of *elementary protoconsciousness*. When
     combined into certain configurations (like a human brain), these
    *protopsychical parts* are fused into something (fully) conscious.

    @philipthrift



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