On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:19 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

*> This is essentially the point that both Turing and Goedel made when they
> pointed out that human consciousness is not Turing emulable -- it involves
> intuitive leaps that are not algorithmic, presumable coming from an
> uncodable environment.*
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Turing was interested in intelligence and, being a scientist, he knew he
couldn't say anything about consciousness unless he made the assumption
that observable intelligent behavior implies consciousness. And deductive
logic is not the only sort of logic there is, there is also inductive logic
and there is no reason a Turing Machine can't be programed for that too and
they certainly have been, that's how Chess and GO programs are able to make
what any Grand Master would call brilliant intuitive moves. Deductive logic
is reliable but although even more useful than deduction inductive logic is
just a rule of thumb, and that is why a intuitive leap can sometimes turn
out to be brilliant and sometimes it can be dead wrong.

As for Godel, I don't think the philosophical musings he made after about
1955 when his only friend Albert Einstein died are worth much, there is no
pleasant way to say this but the poor man went nuts.

 John K Clark



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