On 5/13/2019 11:22 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 12:14:48 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 6:55:03 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: The physical model that says consciousness is the brain processing information by neuron's firing at synapses...a very successful model. Brent I completely missed the news of that success, explicitly stating: "a very successful model". Can you cite something that states that this is a scientific consensus? Now that is what I would call mysterian. @philipthrift http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Models_of_consciousness SummaryBecause consciousness is a rich biological phenomenon, it is likely that a satisfactory scientific theory of consciousness will require the specification of detailed mechanistic models. The models of consciousness surveyed in this article vary in terms of their level of abstraction as well as in the aspects of phenomenal experience that they are proposed to explain. At present, however, no single model of consciousness appears sufficient to account fully for the multidimensional properties of conscious experience. Moreover, although some of these models have gained prominence, *none has yet been accepted as definitive, or even as a foundation upon which to build a definitive model.*
A successful model has predictive power and consilience in a certain domain. It doesn't have to predict everything to be successful. Newton's theory of gravity didn't explain why lead is heavier than iron or why the planets had the orbits they have. I only meant that the neurobiological theory of the brain is successful in predicting that specific chemicals that interact with neurotransmitters will affect conscious thoughts and electrical stimulation of the brain will produce thoughts specific to the location. All the models mentioned in your link implicitly assume this foundation of neural activity. I notice however that Jeff Hawkins model of memory->prediction is not included, although I think he's one of the most serious researchers https://numenta.com/
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