On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 1:18:39 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/13/2019 10:14 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 6:55:03 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > The physical model that says consciousness is the brain processing >> information by neuron's firing at synapses...a very successful model. >> > > >> Brent >> > > > > I completely missed the news of that success, explicitly stating: "a very > successful model". > > > It correctly predicts the degree of effects on consciousness from the > chemical affinities of molecules that will combine with neurotransmitter > molecules like acytelcholine. Can you panpsychism predict that? Can it > even predict that if you hold your breath long enough you will pass out? > > > Can you cite something that states that this is a scientific consensus? > > > Yes, it is a scientific consensus (as much as anything is) that neuronal > firing that is transmitted, or inhibited, by chemicals released > presynaptically is necessary for conscious thought. Have you not heard of > anesthsia? What is the panpsychic theory of anesthesia? > > Brent > > > Now that is what I would call mysterian. > >
*[no model] has yet been accepted as definitive, or even as a foundation upon which to build a definitive model* http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Models_of_consciousness I think any review of the scientific literature on *consciousness *shows that the scientific consensus is that there is no model yet: The Science of Consciousness (TSC) 2019 https://www.tsc2019-interlaken.ch/ I am really mystified that there are scientists who think there is. Where did this idea come from? Perhaps that idea is just among some physicists, who perhaps have a narrow conception of things: There is the Standard Model of particles, and that's the only theory (of all matter) that is needed. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/071180d3-a8e3-4719-83d1-1ba2fc11fcb4%40googlegroups.com.
