> On 20 May 2019, at 20:29, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 5/20/2019 2:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> There is not one evidence fro any primitive matter. Physics predicts well, >> and indeed, > > Which is very strong evidence for physical matter.
Yes, but not for physicalism or (weak) materialism. > "Primitive" is just a theological attribute that forbids looking deeper. So > of course physicists don't claim evidence for "primitive" matter. Absolutely. The problem is not physics nor physicists. The problem is only with the theologian or philosophers who want keep their belief in physicalism, and in mechanism. > >> it is its goal, but to give an account of the experience, they need to >> identify the first person with its brain, and that requires special >> infinities. >> >> On the contrary, mechanism is the only theory that I know of which explain >> both the first person experience, and the appearance of a material reality, >> and this without anymore ontological commitment than the belief that >> equation like x + 4 = 9 admits solutions, and also that x = 1, say, is *not* >> a solution. Physics is “platonism” (realist) in that sense, but can only >> link brain and mind by using actual infinities in the mind and in the brain, >> leading to the assumption that Mechanism has to be wrong (but then >> darwinism, molecular biology, genetics, even current formulation of physics >> are all wrong). > > But these "infinities" are only required because you assume mathematical > realism as primary. Arithmetical realism. Not mathematical realism, which is impossible with arithmetical realism, actually. Arithmetical realism is needed to define “digital mechanism”, and everybody doing science accept arithmetical realism. Even the ultrafinitists agree with the axiom of RA. Bruno > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d6ef363a-d2f2-6d15-38c3-7d52033e8b4b%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7846C67F-CF3D-4A14-8A2E-9BDB446468EA%40ulb.ac.be.
