On 5/20/2019 2:35 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Physics (and the other sciences) are unreasonably effective at describing and accounting for our experiences. Platonism does not have any runs on the board at all.

Platonism is a metaphysical position that is not in opposition to physics or any of the other sciences, on the contrary.

Physicists are funny. You guys have the most successful of all scientific fields, but not for the reason you imagine. You went so deep that you came full-circle back to philosophy. But you refuse to admit it, because of some weird insecurity.

Not at all.  We're modest and don't claim to know the ding an sich things.  The way I put it is that we seek a virtuous circle of explanation.  Something like:

->physics->chemistry->biology->evolution->perception->intelligence->language->mathematics->physics->

although there are other ways of naming things drawing a loop.  My point is that we must always explain something in terms of something else we understand.  There is no "primitive" in explanations.  We build up the virtuous circle by extending its scope to, ideally, encompass everything. Good explanations tend to have predictive power, but prediction is not the same as explanation.  Consilence is coherence of explanations across levels.

Platonism is a strictly hierarchical scheme based on language, not explanation or prediction.  Platonist want to find a god of the philosophers to replace the Big Guy in the Sky.  It's not so much in opposition to science as orthogonal to it.  Mathematicians create imaginary, but logically consistent worlds.  Platonists want to live in them.

Brent
"The duty of abstract mathematics, as I see it, is precisely to
expand our capacity for hypothesizing possible ontologies."
         --- Norm Levitt

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