On 5/21/2019 2:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
3) I don't even know what it would mean for consciousness to be
provable, nor why that is relevant.
It is part of the axiomatic definition we search.
Of course it is the proposition “I am conscious” which is both
immediately true and not provable.
Of course whether it is immediately true is what is in question. When
you speak the words, "I am conscious." are you conscious at that
moment. I remember a scifi story in which aliens who communicate
telepathically (by EM as I recall) visit Earth. They can "read the
minds" of humans but they are frustrated in trying to communicate with
humans because the humans keep opening their mouths and producing
vibrations and whenever they do this, their "minds" go blank.
Brent
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