> On 25 Jul 2019, at 21:32, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 7/24/2019 4:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> There is no human consciousness without brain activity. But with mechanism >> things are like this: >> >> NUMBER => CONSCIOUSNESS => PHYSICAL REALITY => BRAINS => HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS > ^ > || > || > v > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Humans invented numbers.
Of course, with mechanism, numbers “invented” the human, and that explains a lot, in a sub theory of all known theories. > >> >> >> We, human needs brain, > > Why? It's a trivial consequence of a materialist theory. On the contrary, this needs an identity thesis which is incompatible with mechanism. > But it seems like an ad hoc assumption to save your theory. On the contrary, it becomes a theorem. Bruno > > Brent > >> but that does not make brain existing in a primitive sense. They are >> appearance in the mind of the universal numbers, which does not require “a >> physical reality”, only a Turing universal machinery, like elementary >> arithmetic already is. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/46260495-b871-7ef8-f967-7dc6050c2bd2%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/46260495-b871-7ef8-f967-7dc6050c2bd2%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0C3C2F52-1899-4C0E-B949-D839FBCE0994%40ulb.ac.be.
