On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:14 AM Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:
*> * > > > > > > > *This is all different from John Clark's argument that something mustexist > to breathe fire into all the computations. He calls thatsomething "matter", > and strongly disavows the ability of arithmetic todo this. Bruno Marchal > claims the opposite - that arithmetic, or infact any abstract system > capable of universal computation, issufficient for the job. To be quite > frank, I'm a fence sitter in thisdebate, as I've yet to see any physically > realisable experiment thatcan settle the matter.* I have. Add 2 +2 on your computer. Observe the output. Hit your computer as hard as you can with the hammer. Add 2 +2 on your computer again. Observe if the output has changed. Note that a hammer can change physical things but can't change arithmetic. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv23gJiiYeBD5W1x8zAaPzzBRsqYF6zx8DmFjviDvWGzZg%40mail.gmail.com.

