On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 11:43:12 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/8/2019 3:51 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 5:40:55 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> > On 7 Sep 2019, at 07:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9/6/2019 9:51 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> I would put "Horganism" another way. >> >> >> >> Science tells stories/theories, and some are successful in their >> application. But we don't know if any of the stories are the final ones to >> be told, or even close to being final. (They probably are not.) There is no >> settled story of gravity yet, much less consciousness. One reads about a >> new story of gravity in science news every week, it seems. >> >> >> >> David Chalmers' conclusion is ... >> >> >> >> "I think that the Hegelian [dialectical] argument gives good reason to >> take both panpsychism and panprotopsychism very seriously. If we can find a >> reasonable solution to the combination problem for either, this view would >> immediately become the most promising solution to the mind–body problem. So >> the combination problem deserves serious and sustained attention." >> >> - http://consc.net/papers/panpsychism.pdf >> > >> > Zero predictive power and it's not clear that it's consistent with the >> rest of neurophysics. >> >> + zero explanation power at all, also. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> >> >> > But panpsychism more explanatory than consciousness from numbers. > > > No it isn't. It's just a label. Numbers at least can have complex > relations. > > Brent >
Meaningless, unless to someone who is a member of an occult Pythagorean cult. Numbers map to lambda expressions, and functions and relation can all be expressed in lambda calculus. To say that consciousness is a lambda expression is more of a spiritual belief than consciousness is constituted by matter. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5be88f3a-5464-4afa-8799-f1f0ca1f377d%40googlegroups.com.
