On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 5:40:55 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> > On 7 Sep 2019, at 07:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
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> > On 9/6/2019 9:51 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: 
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> >> I would put "Horganism" another way. 
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> >> Science tells stories/theories, and some are successful in their 
> application. But we don't know if any of the stories are the final ones to 
> be told, or even close to being final. (They probably are not.) There is no 
> settled story of gravity yet, much less consciousness. One reads about a 
> new story of gravity in science news every week, it seems. 
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> >> David Chalmers' conclusion is ... 
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> >> "I think that the Hegelian [dialectical] argument gives good reason to 
> take both panpsychism and panprotopsychism very seriously. If we can find a 
> reasonable solution to the combination problem for either, this view would 
> immediately become the most promising solution to the mind–body problem. So 
> the combination problem deserves serious and sustained attention." 
> >> - http://consc.net/papers/panpsychism.pdf 
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> > Zero predictive power and it's not clear that it's consistent with the 
> rest of neurophysics. 
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> + zero explanation power at all, also. 
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But panpsychism more explanatory than consciousness from numbers. 

@philipthrift

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