> On 24 Oct 2019, at 20:10, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/24/2019 6:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Leibniz put it well in 1686, in his famous image of the mill: >>> consciousness, he said, "cannot be explained on mechanical principles, ie >>> by shapes and movements…. imagine that there is a machine [eg a brain] >>> whose structure makes it think, sense and have perception. Then we can >>> conceive it enlarged, so that we can go inside it, as into a mill. Suppose >>> that we do: then if we inspect the interior we shall find there nothing but >>> parts which push one another, and never anything which could explain a >>> conscious experience." >>> >>> Conclusion: consciousness can't be physical, >> >> That’s a valid reasoning. > > No it's not. Leibniz could find "producing flour" either, just parts that > push and pull.
I don’t understand. I think you miss here the 1p and 3p crucial distinction. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9217dfb6-6b3f-e81d-8698-6775dbe71e89%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9217dfb6-6b3f-e81d-8698-6775dbe71e89%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CEADB9B1-4332-4DD4-ACCE-F4E64FC7D8CC%40ulb.ac.be.
