> On 29 Oct 2019, at 19:01, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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> On 10/29/2019 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> Obviously. But my point is that if 2 does not make sense, 2 electrons does 
>> not make sense either, and the Big Bang is no more something that we can 
>> today considered as real before us.
> 
> "2" and "Big Bang" are descriptive elements in our theories. 

They are supposed to refer to things which we believe to be independent of us 
and of our theories.



> Before us there is no one to hold the theories, no one to stand in the 
> relation of "making sense to”.

Does this prevents us to believe that there was a big-bang before the humans? 
Or that 67 is odd, even in absence of human?

If it does, I’m afraid we are on a slope toward anthropocentrism if not 
solipsism.

Bruno

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> Brent
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