> On 30 Oct 2019, at 22:46, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/30/2019 2:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 29 Oct 2019, at 19:01, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/29/2019 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>> Obviously. But my point is that if 2 does not make sense, 2 electrons does >>>> not make sense either, and the Big Bang is no more something that we can >>>> today considered as real before us. >>> "2" and "Big Bang" are descriptive elements in our theories. >> They are supposed to refer to things which we believe to be independent of >> us and of our theories. >> >> >> >>> Before us there is no one to hold the theories, no one to stand in the >>> relation of "making sense to”. >> Does this prevents us to believe that there was a big-bang before the >> humans? Or that 67 is odd, even in absence of human? > > Of course not. We invented the terms to describe what we believe. But it > doesn't mean the terms themselves "made sense" a billion years ago; they make > sense about things a billion years ago. The terms and the "make sense" > relation are in the present.
So we agree. I lost the goal of your previous point though. You did not quote enough to see if your remark has an impact on what I was trying to convey. If you are OK that 67 is odd independently of the terms used to refer to that number, and independently of us, I think that what I could have said will go through. Bruno > > Brent > >> >> If it does, I’m afraid we are on a slope toward anthropocentrism if not >> solipsism. >> >> Bruno >> >>> Brent >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8228ca99-daf4-1bd1-0fb9-cd81dd246051%40verizon.net. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/191549fc-2a52-44f5-b9b1-f5f7c2ce6296%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8EF379F2-C19C-4616-9032-A3981AD2AF68%40ulb.ac.be.
