> On 22 Nov 2019, at 09:09, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well... maybe when you are a 50 years old scientist, you can say that, but > this is not the spirit in which science is teached to children or popularized > to laymen. The spirit of science popularization is that it gives us the > truth, and we should obey or die. If scientists are such moral people, then > why they don't tell to their students in the first class of their course that > they will only present to them a model ? Instead, they jump right in: "Space > is such-and-such, time is such-and-such.". I never heard any professor of > mine telling us that they are only presenting us models.
Some do, but are rare. The problem is the implicit confusion between physics and metaphysics/theology make by the weak-materialist (the belief in some irreducible matter). In physics that is not important, like the switch to instrumentalism often made illustrate, but in metaphysics/theology, that distinction is crucial. Bruno > > On Thursday, 21 November 2019 19:23:27 UTC+2, Brent wrote: > The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, they > mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct which, with > the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes observed > phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is solely and > precisely that it is expected to work. > --—John von Neumann > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0820104a-969a-45d5-989e-36c6ed0e6d29%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0820104a-969a-45d5-989e-36c6ed0e6d29%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2CB891C8-C9E4-479A-9D2C-FD3A70E4846D%40ulb.ac.be.
