On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 6:46:46 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/20/2020 5:00 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > >> What justifies your rejecting one kind of infinity (expansion) while >> accepting other infinities (extent)? >> > > Expansion by itself can never result in any infinity because the rate is > always finite, and the duration is finite, 13.8 BY. Can you not understand > this? > > > I understand you are asserting the rate is always finite. But assertion > is cheap. You allow for other infinities. Why not infinite rates. >
I am not exactly allowing for other infinities. I was just speculating about the Multiverse, maybe too much. But we have a universe, and if its expansion rate were infinite, it would be a singularity. AG > > What other infinities? I do assume the Multiverse is infinite in all > parameters, but acknowledge that we have no knowledge of what it is. Maybe > our categories of space and time don't apply to it. AG > > > Maybe your categories of infinite rates don't apply. What is it you're > trying to argue? That all those stupid physicists who think the universe > may be flat and infinite in extent are fools? > Yes, many are fools. I am simply arguing that finite rates for finite times cannot yield infinite spatial extent. Do the arithmetic and you'll be convinced. OTOH, if it really is flat and infinite, it must have come about in some other way. Maybe it was always that way. But I have no knowledge of infinities in the Multiverse. I suppose my speculation on this issue gave you a wedge. It's not material to my main point. AG > Well then all you have to do show that "infinite" is obviously wrong. All > this talk about expansion and rates and beginnings is irrelevant. > Once more; if it began, it couldn't have evolved any infinities. By what process? A singularity? But if anyone wants to assume that, the condition must have preexisted the emergence of our universe from the Multiverse. AG > > Brent > > > You just ramble about your intuition as though it were mathematical logic. >> > > Not mathematical logic, just logic. AG > >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/32b3b754-12ed-4aab-8163-dd89c8abfab7%40googlegroups.com.
