On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 8:32:41 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 25 Jan 2020, at 02:02, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:42 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On 1/24/2020 4:14 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:12 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Actually this was the example of a field I was thinking of where a >>> particle doesn't seem to be specified: >>> >>> *Consciousness emerges in molecules through an interaction with a >>> universal proto-consciousness field that is congruent or identical with >>> vacuum fluctuations.* >>> >> >> What a load of total bullshit!!! >> >> >> Proto-bullshit is an intrinsic component of panpsychism. >> > > I rather like David Albert's (2016) characterisation of the "Many Minds" > interpretation of quantum mechanics, which he and Barry Loewer proposed in > 1996: "...bad, silly, hopeless, explicitly dualist". Panpsychism falls into > the same camp. > > > I agree with Albert. Panpsychism does put both “pan” and “psychism” out of > what we have to explain and relate. > > Bruno > > > >
Not necessarily: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full : Our argument in this paper, in quick summary, is as follows: (1) All things resonate in some manner; (2) in many circumstances, things resonating in proximity will start resonating together at the same frequency, achieving a shared resonance; (3) we take panpsychism, the notion that all matter is associated with at least some degree of mind/subjectivity/consciousness, as our metaphysical starting point and don’t dwell long on why we have arrived at this position since that debate is addressed elsewhere; (4) achieving a shared resonance is what leads micro-conscious entities to combine into macro-conscious entities, often with a phase transition in the speed of information sharing resulting from that shared resonance. The notion of resonance (also known as synchrony, coherence, or shared vibrations) has a long history in neuroscience. Crick and Koch feature this concept prominently in their neurobiological theory of consciousness (Crick and Koch, 1990 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B12>; Koch, 2004 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B33>). Fries similarly identifies the process of “communication through coherence” (neuronal synchrony/resonance) as a critical component of neural function (Fries, 2005 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B17>, 2015 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B18>). Dehaene, in his Global Workspace Theory, highlights the role of long-range synchrony between cortical areas as a key “signature of consciousness” (Koch, 2004 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B33>; Dehaene, 2014 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B13>). Grossberg (2017) <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B21> introduced an Adaptive Resonance Theory (ART) that argues that “all conscious states are resonant states,” but that not all resonant states are conscious states. Freeman and Vitiello rely on resonance and phase transitions in their approach to explaining brain dynamics (Freeman and Vitiello, 2006 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B16>). Pockett has proposed an electromagnetic field theory of consciousness that relies on “synchronization during the feedback of activity” to distinguish conscious from non-conscious fields (Pockett, 2000 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B44>, 2012 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B45>). As a final recent example, the concept of resonance is central to Bandyopadhyay’s (2019) <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B4> Fractal Information Theory of consciousness (Sahu et al., 2013a <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B47>, b <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B48>; Singh et al., 2018 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B53>). We build upon this extensive body of work in developing our general resonance theory of consciousness. We take panpsychism (also known as panexperientialism) as our metaphysical starting point. This philosophical stance suggests that all matter has at least some associated mind/experience and vice versa, albeit highly rudimentary in the large majority of instances. All things and processes have both mental and physical aspects.1 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#footnote1> Matter and mind are two sides of the same coin. Panpsychism is one of many possible approaches that addresses the “hard part” of the Hard Problem. We adopt this position for the reasons described in Section “The “Hard Part” of the Hard Problem” below, which we and authors have discussed in more depth elsewhere (Chalmers, 1996 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B5>; Griffin, 1998 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B20>; Hunt, 2011 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B25>; Goff, 2017 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B19>). This first step is particularly powerful if we adopt a Whiteheadian version of panpsychism (Whitehead et al., 1929 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B63>; Griffin, 1998 <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2019.00378/full#B20>). @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0dd90918-3df3-442b-9270-c7ebcfd6b296%40googlegroups.com.
