On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 9:27:43 AM UTC-7 Bruno Marchal wrote:
> > On 15 Jan 2021, at 23:34, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why not assume the wf applies only before the measurement? > > > That’s Bohr idea. But it means that measurement are no more describe by > QM, and this introduces a dualism in the the possible theory of mind that > you need to use. The élégance if the MWI is that QM applies to both the > observed and the observer, again, like it has to do assuming mechanism. > > > > Or why not withhold judgement on a phenomenon not yet understood? Instead > you totally dismiss empirical evidence that no one ever observes a split. AG > > > We still observe the result predicted when accepting the superposed wave > going through all slit. The fact that we don’t feel the split is entirely > explained by the wave evolution and the self-duplication thought > experiment. Occam razor favours the simplest conceptual explanation, or we > add add as many “epicycle” to favour any interpretation, up to the super > determinism, which I take as an abandon of rationality… > > Bruno > *Yeah, "entirely explained", except for the huge gorilla in the room. Where's the beef, I mean the energy to create those other worlds? Is it in the non-computable irrational numbers? AG* > > > > > > On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 1:18:53 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:22 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> *> Why do you assume that the initial observer splits after initial >>> trial when it's not observed? AG * >> >> >> For heaven sake haven't you been listening?! Because that is the least >> bizarre interpretation anybody can think of to explain the utterly bizarre >> results observed from the two slit experiment. There is just no getting >> around it, if Many Worlds isn't true then something even stranger must >> be. >> >> John K Clark >> >>> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2a6bf029-a37a-4049-ab90-0ee889ba9820n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2a6bf029-a37a-4049-ab90-0ee889ba9820n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/18a5ee2c-2afb-49d4-9e4e-e8ecaa207de6n%40googlegroups.com.
