> On 16 Jan 2021, at 02:00, smitra <[email protected]> wrote: > > Decoherence should be irrelevant. Whether or not you (considered as some > given physical system) have measured something, should not only depend on the > entanglement between the measured system and those that belong to you.
Indeed. Bruno > > Saibal > > On 16-01-2021 00:48, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: >> The Wigner's friend experiment proves a lot less than they headlines >> hype. >> The "friends" are quantum 1-degree-of-freedom systems, so they don't >> decohere, and it's questionable to say they've measured anything. >> Brent >> On 1/15/2021 3:27 PM, Alina Gutoreva wrote: >>> "Before an idea is told, it’s never been true [1]?”-kind of >>> idea OR “levels [2]”-kind of idea? Or both [3]? I’m confused. >>> Please, don’t be angry. >>> Ally >>> On 15 Jan 2021, at 22:34, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Why not assume the wf applies only before the measurement? Or why >>> not withhold judgement on a phenomenon not yet understood? Instead >>> you totally dismiss empirical evidence that no one ever observes a >>> split. AG >>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 1:18:53 PM UTC-7 [email protected] >>> [4] wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:22 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Why do you assume that the initial observer splits after initial >>> trial when it's not observed? AG >>> For heaven sake haven't you been listening?! Because that is the >>> least bizarre interpretation anybody can think of to explain the >>> utterly bizarre results observed from the two slit experiment. There >>> is just no getting around it, if Many Worlds isn't true then >>> something even stranger must be. >>> John K Clark >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2a6bf029-a37a-4049-ab90-0ee889ba9820n%40googlegroups.com >> [5]. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5BC6546E-8F24-4D9E-B432-23A92433AB94%40gmail.com >> [6]. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0dc3eab3-583d-2c41-d7c7-9dfc8d4f9145%40verizon.net >> [7]. >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] >> https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/03/12/136684/a-quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality/ >> [2] https://t.me/decision_insights/523 >> [3] https://t.me/decision_insights/311 >> [4] http://gmail.com >> [5] >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2a6bf029-a37a-4049-ab90-0ee889ba9820n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> [6] >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5BC6546E-8F24-4D9E-B432-23A92433AB94%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> [7] >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0dc3eab3-583d-2c41-d7c7-9dfc8d4f9145%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5b9ef84b6ce585689a5c05d17bc75aa7%40zonnet.nl. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/28DD6452-F18D-4E32-A8B2-438F9CAF59E5%40ulb.ac.be.
