On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 8:47:03 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote:
> [*Philip Benjamin*] > > Wave equation? Of what? Wavy Particles? Or Wave-like Particles? Wavy > particles is a paradox, a puzzle, a mystic mystery!! That is how a purely > scientific theory such as Quantum Mechanics became so confounded with > absurdities and speculations. Puzzle in, puzzle out!! There are and never > can be wavicles, only particles that behave AS IF in wave forms. An *AS > IF Logic* is all that is needed, not *Both &* Fallacy. The Schrodinger > Cat was introduced only to show the absurdity of taking probability > statistics seriously. Probabilities are not all possibilities. Some of > these pioneers of QM were occultists, alcoholics and some other serious > addictions. That is how the sorcerer-psychiatrist Carl Jung joined them. > Worldviews determine scientific interpretations. Interpretations are not > theories. CopenPagan Interpretation (a malaprop) is a pagan world-view, > not scientific theory. That is how Albert Einstein strongly disagreed with > Niels Bohr. > > *Philip Benjamin* > *You're an idiot. Please don't reply again on this thread. Apparently, you've never heard of something called an electron microscope. AG * > Saturday, April 10, 2021 6:22 AM [email protected] *Subject:* > Re: Mixed State vs Superposition of States for Schrodinger's cat > > > > > > On 9 Apr 2021, at 06:42, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > When the box is closed, and before the measurement, why can't it be > claimed that the Cat is in a Mixed State, not a Superposition of States? > Only the latter leads to the paradox of a cat which is Alive and Dead > simultaneously. AG > > > > > > Because the Wave equation in this setting leads to a pure state > dead+alive, and twe know that such pure state leads to different prediction > than any possible corresponding mixed states. (Assuming the SWE). > > > > That’s true even if the box is open, but in that case, the pure state will > be lifted to the observer of the cat, who will become itself in a pure > state of seeing the cat dead and the cat alive, in parallel histories. In > this case, the indeterminacy is explained entirely by the same > indeterminacy occurring in, amoeba self-division, or in the infinite > multiplication of all relative universal number state in arithmetic. > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/750f52a9-1316-47db-9b00-cca531c2b527n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Feverything-list%2F750f52a9-1316-47db-9b00-cca531c2b527n%2540googlegroups.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3f851e841ae145b76af908d8fc12d396%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637536505070959887%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=EK8%2BBW4w4PEE5qgL55cGqx5wB2AmoBeJArWD7ZC3OEA%3D&reserved=0> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/DA6C2075-1CAE-46E7-87D7-33C2E3DD308D%40ulb.ac.be > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Feverything-list%2FDA6C2075-1CAE-46E7-87D7-33C2E3DD308D%2540ulb.ac.be%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3f851e841ae145b76af908d8fc12d396%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637536505070964863%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YSc6XNz3T6hIiPZgx8o%2BWJAYL%2BS9MQuMaDJSrxweQ6Q%3D&reserved=0> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1686f3f0-463c-4f87-8b2c-ab52eb8c5128n%40googlegroups.com.
