On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 8:48:57 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote:
> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/57789/... > > “The myth that electrons are waves or behave as waves or sometimes are > waves and sometimes are not, depending of the observer, is one of the > more persistent myths that surround quantum mechanics. Electrons can > exist in the same state. E.g. one electron in an hydrogen atom can be in > the same state than another electron in another atom”. > > *Philip Benjamin* > > *Wave-likeness ≠ Waviness * > *I've asked you not to post on this thread. I am not interested in your worthless opinions. If electron waves didn't exist, neither would electron microscopes. AG* > > > [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Alan > Grayson > *Sent:* Saturday, April 10, 2021 2:02 PM *Subject:* Re: Mixed State vs > Superposition of States for Schrodinger's cat > > > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 8:47:03 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote: > > [*Philip Benjamin*] > > Wave equation? Of what? Wavy Particles? Or Wave-like Particles? Wavy > particles is a paradox, a puzzle, a mystic mystery!! That is how a purely > scientific theory such as Quantum Mechanics became so confounded with > absurdities and speculations. Puzzle in, puzzle out!! There are and never > can be wavicles, only particles that behave AS IF in wave forms. An *AS > IF Logic* is all that is needed, not *Both &* Fallacy. The Schrodinger > Cat was introduced only to show the absurdity of taking probability > statistics seriously. Probabilities are not all possibilities. Some of > these pioneers of QM were occultists, alcoholics and some other serious > addictions. That is how the sorcerer-psychiatrist Carl Jung joined them. > Worldviews determine scientific interpretations. Interpretations are not > theories. CopenPagan Interpretation (a malaprop) is a pagan world-view, > not scientific theory. That is how Albert Einstein strongly disagreed with > Niels Bohr. > > *Philip Benjamin* > > > > *You're an idiot. Please don't reply again on this thread. Apparently, > you've never heard of something called an electron microscope. AG * > > Saturday, April 10, 2021 6:22 AM [email protected] *Subject:* > Re: Mixed State vs Superposition of States for Schrodinger's cat > > > > > > On 9 Apr 2021, at 06:42, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > When the box is closed, and before the measurement, why can't it be > claimed that the Cat is in a Mixed State, not a Superposition of States? > Only the latter leads to the paradox of a cat which is Alive and Dead > simultaneously. AG > > > > > > Because the Wave equation in this setting leads to a pure state > dead+alive, and twe know that such pure state leads to different prediction > than any possible corresponding mixed states. (Assuming the SWE). > > > > That’s true even if the box is open, but in that case, the pure state will > be lifted to the observer of the cat, who will become itself in a pure > state of seeing the cat dead and the cat alive, in parallel histories. In > this case, the indeterminacy is explained entirely by the same > indeterminacy occurring in, amoeba self-division, or in the infinite > multiplication of all relative universal number state in arithmetic. > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/daecc06c-eded-4ae1-be7a-de40bc4053d2n%40googlegroups.com.
