Virtual particles are not real. In fact off-shell particles or their 
mass-energies are just dummy variables of integration in the computation of 
Feynman diagrams. In the BCFW formalism off-shell condition can be 
dispensed with entirely. These integration variables are in effect removed 
and they signify massive gauge redundancies.

LC

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 8:40:57 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:23 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *> So, if there is no computational or physical back drop to the vacuum 
>> or false  vacuum, then what of the effects of Virtual Particle 
>> observations? I am looking at an article astronomer article by Ethan 
>> Siegel, indicating the reality of virtual particles. The have to initiate 
>> from somewhere, correct?*
>>
> No, according to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle you can sneak in 
> under the radar of the law of conservation of mass/energy and create stuff 
> from nothing, but only for a very short amount of time, and the larger the 
> amount of mass/energy there is the shorter the amount of time you are 
> allowed to violate that law. So virtual photons can pop into existence from 
> nowhere, they can't be detected directly but they do produce changes in 
> things that we can detect, such as in the detailed examination of the 
> spectral lines of hydrogen, an even better example is the Casimir effect. 
>
> If you place two flat uncharged mirrors close together then there can NOT 
> be virtual photons of every wavelength in the vacuum between the mirrors as 
> there are outside, only a wavelength equal to the distance between mirrors 
> are allowed, or half that wavelength, or a third or a fourth etc (it's the 
> same reason a organ pipe will not make any sound but only sounds that 
> resonate inside the pipe). But outside of the mirrors there is no such 
> restriction and the virtual photons can be of any wavelength. Thus there 
> are more virtual particles in the vacuum outside the mirrors pushing them 
> together than there are between the mirrors pushing them apart. So the 
> mirrors will attract each other.
>
> This attractive force was predicted to exist in 1948 but it wasn't until 
> 1997 that it was confirmed in the lab to actually exist with just the 
> strength Casimir said it would have. If the Vacuum outside the mirror has 
> zero energy then the space between the mirrors must contain negative 
> energy.
>
> John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
> gop
>
>
>

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