So, if there is no computational or physical back drop to the vacuum or false vacuum, then what of the effects of Virtual Particle observations? I am looking at an article astronomer article by Ethan Siegel, indicating the reality of virtual particles. The have to initiate from somewhere, correct? On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 Tomas Pales <[email protected]> wrote: On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 1:00:34 PM UTC+2 telmo wrote:
I haven't read "Physics for the Feeble-Minded" (yet?), but something caught my attention in the review below: https://theamericanscholar.org/physics-for-the-feeble-minded/ "Rovelli’s short answer to this and other bizarre takes on quantum weirdness: Nonsense! His real purpose is to posit his own theory of “relations.” He suggests that most, if not all, of quantum theory’s perplexities can be resolved by understanding that there is no ultimate essence, no Kantian Ding an sich, no existence in and of itself attributable to a particle. What we know, since we too are part of nature, is only how something manifests itself to us. It is only in relation to something else that anything can be known—and a thing can manifest itself differently to different things." Maybe Rovelli is ready for Marchal :) Cheers Telmo Those relations are between nothings? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/81d0214a-9006-406e-ba20-0996c4153cc2n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1268018417.391822.1629858182121%40mail.yahoo.com.

